59 – Documenting the Paranormal: An Interview With The Gray Brothers

Adam and Drew Gray are Canadian filmmakers who have approached documenting the paranormal with a scientific eye and an open mind. Allison from Milwaukee Ghosts first introduced me to their work through a documentary called  The Nightmare. 

Inspired by a sleep paralysis incident that affected Adam Grey so deeply that he couldn’t sleep for weeks where he saw a shrouded figure at the foot of the bed (he goes into detail about what actually happened to him during the podcast and I talk about a sleep paralysis incident that I had as well that would later inspire our song, “Hypnogogic”.)

They went around the world to film  The Nightmare ( which you can watch in its entirety on Amazon Prime ), from Japan to California to Newfoundland to Africa in their research for the worldwide phenomena of the legends behind sleep paralysis and Sudden Unexpected Nocturnal Death Syndrome , a condition that causes people to die in their sleep mysteriously.

First noticed in the Hmong refugees in the United States after the Vietnam War, it’s something that  Asians have been especially susceptible to this syndrome, with 230 Thai men, often young and otherwise healthy, succumbing to it in  between 1982 and 1990. Whether it’s the Newfoundland “Old Hag” or the Hmong  dab tsuam (pronounced “da cho”), these midnight visitors have been reported all over the world. Whether or not, it’s an evil spirit or just the imaginations of afflicted working against them, these nightmares can sometimes have deadly consequences.

The success of  The Nightmare  led the brothers to be commissioned for a Canadian paranormal series called Supernatural Investigator, where they explored other topics like the Betty and Barney Hill abduction case ( that we talked about in our hypnotic regression episode ) and remote viewing. Remote viewing is also known as clairvoyance (French for “clear vision”) where people can see things far away psychically (something the United States military even tried to exploit during the Cold War, most famously parodied in The Men Who Stare At Goats )  They went to a remote viewing training camp in Las Vegas and had some very interesting results.

After documenting the paranormal for years, they’ve made their way to true crime and their last documentary, Fly Colt Fly , is about Colton Harris-Moore, the “ Barefoot Bandit “, whose colorful exploits in stealing  planes and boats as just a kid in the American Northwest in the late 2000s made him a folk hero to some people. Currently, you can see their latest film on HBO Canada.

The song for this week’s episode is inspired by the Gray Brothers’ episode of Supernatural Investigator on Remote Viewing. It’s called “Tragedy (Of A Remote Viewer With A Broken Heart)”.

I burned your pictures
I burned your clothes
I burned every little message and every little note.
Deleted emails,
deleted texts,
I let the cat rip up your side of the bed.

But every time I close my eyes
There you are with your new prize
Just loving some other guy to death.

I can still see you
laughing
your hand in hand
you’re making love to another man
every second my heart is going to burst.

I can still see you
our minds are connected,
even when I’m rejected
And now this gift is nothing but a curse.

Now you’re loving someone else to death.

I’m not your BFF,
or your buddy,
Please don’t call me for lunch cuz I don’t wanna see.
And I’m not angry,
it’s not your fault,
Sometimes things get turned on that, can’t get turned off.

Cuz every time I close my eyes
There you are with your new prize
Just loving some other guy to death.

I can still see you
laughing
your hand in hand
you’re making love to another man
every second my heart is going to burst.

I can still see you
our minds are connected,
even when I’m rejected
And now this gift is nothing but a curse.

Now you’re loving someone else to death.
Now you’re loving someone else to death.
Now you’re loving someone else to death.

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