56 – Have an Out of Body Experience: With Luis Minero
Out of Body Experiences (OBEs) are one of the least talked about paranormal phenomena, a lot of people have so much invested into the idea of your consciousness leaving your body at the time of death, that we forget that some people claim that they can leave their body and travel while they’re alive!
It’s been called astral projection and spirit walking as well, and it’s something we talked about in the episode with Garnet Schulhauser and his spirit guide, Albert. There’s an excellent cinematic representation of an out of body experience with Jake Busey and Michael J. Fox in Peter Jackson’s The Frighteners (which if you haven’t seen, you should probably go check it out, because it’s a great movie.)
But it’s also part of the Kevin Bacon/Kiefer Sutherland/Julia Roberts paranormal “classic”, Flatliners. That’s a decent one to watch if you’re interested in some late 80s/early 90s nostalgia. I thought it was pretty scary in Seventh Grade too, if that makes it more enticing.
Neuropsychologists call this “leaving of the body” a Doppelgänger experience, where you feel an illusory body leave your physical sense. Scientists have used these disassociative experiences to learn more about how the human mind constructs its sense of self. People experience this state through meditation, extreme physical duress, episodes of being near death, and hallucinogenic substances. But others claim that its nature is more mystical, that our souls and consciousness can leave our bodies and we have conversation in this episode is with Luis Minero, who’s the head of the International Academy of Consciousness , which is an organization dedicated to investigating the mysteries of psychic phenomena and human potential.
Luis first had an out of body experience as a adolescent, he was laying down in his room and all of a sudden he felt that he was on the other side of the room. This started happening to him on a consistent basis afterwards and he became fascinated with the paranormal.
Luis details one of the ways to have an out of body experience.
- Get into a quiet room and put yourself in a comfortable spot where you can meditate.
- Focus your concentration on different points of the body (focusing your concentration = energy) and start moving that concentration from your head to your feet slowly.
- Increase the speed of moving the energy from top to bottom until it feels like your body is vibrating quickly. Okay, we’d love for anyone to give this a try and see what happens. I’ve never had an out of body experience (my sister has though and we’ll have to ask her about that on a future episode) and I’m definitely going to give this a shot in my meditation exercises sometime.
If you’d like to learn more about the subject and more of Minero’s techniques, check out his book, Demystifying the Out-of-Body Experience: A Practical Manual for Exploration and Personal Evolution right here.
The song for this episode is “ Push ” by Sunspot .
Hot breath on my neck
I shut my eyes
turn all the way inward,
go deep inside.
and my face is wet,
how I want this to be
anyone but me
someone else’s body
to push push push away and out of here
I need to push push push away and out of here
From up on high
I can see where I lie,
Some kind of fantasy,
pushed right out of body
I went so far inside
that I lost my mind
I came out the other side
that’s where I hide.
that’s where I hide.
I’m watching myself now,
somewhere outside my brain,
free of the terror,
free of the pain.
Turn away from the scene,
I set off on my own,
into infinity,
beyond divinity.
to push push push away and out of here
I need to push push push away and out of here
From up on high
I can see where I lie,
Some kind of fantasy,
pushed right out of body
I went so far inside
that I lost my mind
I came out the other side
that’s where I hide.
that’s where I hide.
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